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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:40 am 
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She should fly to New York and get a lot of protesters to gather outside Fox HQ and ...



Oh, wait. :lol:

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cross-posting from the Florida Challenge thread.

Orly once again touts her legal acumen... :P

:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=45309 :evil:

More clarification and update on WND, Corsi and others. Clarification on discovery: attorneys can do discovery and serve subpoenas only after a judge denies a motion to dismiss or after defendants file an answer [-(

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got several e-mails, where I was told that ORYR (supposedly Bob Nelson) and Sam Sewell are promoting a video clip with a recorded phone call from Larry Kleyman. In this phone call Kleyman is saying that in a case of Mike Voeltz, for which he now substituted as an attorney, discovery is under way and he can do it immediately. He said something afterwards that he needs to wait for something else, but I could not hear well the recording and I am not sure what was this something else for which he needs to wait for.

He did say that discovery is under way and they can do it immediately. Here is an explanation again. When a party files a case, they need to serve a complaint. Then they need to wait typically 30-60 days depending on jurisdiction and the type of the defendant for the defense to respond. If the defense files an answer, discovery can start. In Obama eligibility cases for the last 4 years the defense typically did not file an answer, but rather a motion to dismiss, saying that the case has no merit. When a party files a motion to dismiss, you cannot do discovery: you cannot depose them, you cannot subpoena a document, you cannot do interrogatories. Motion to dismiss is filed in order to protect the parties from discovery, for the parties not to have to appear in depositions. In over a 100 eligibility cases filed, motions to dismiss were granted and there was never any discovery.

I got a copy of the docket of the case of Mike Voeltz, where Larry Kleyman is an attorney. They filed their first amended complaint. I do not know, whether they served the defense with this complaint. I did not see proof of service yet. After the defense is served, you have to wait for the defense to respond. Most probably they will file a motion to dismiss. As I said, most of those motions were granted and there is a 99% chance that this motion to dismiss will be granted as they were granted in most cases and no discovery will ever be done in that case.So, somebody needs to ask Larry Kleyman, why is he saying that the discovery in that case is under way and he can do it immediately? On what basis? :P

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My case in Mississippi was filed two months ago. Originally the defense filed motions to dismiss. I responded to those motions. Either the defense felt that the motions to dismiss will be denied or most probably they got wind of me getting ready to file an amended complaint with RICO causes of action, and they changed their strategy and filed an answer in order to try to limit the case to the original causes of action and avoid civil RICO. I filed RICO anyways. An actual answer was filed by both the attorney General of Mississippi on behalf of the Secretary of State of Mississippi and on behalf of the Democratic party of Mississippi. This is the difference between my case in MS and Kleyman’s case and a couple of other cases.


Much more at the link. Bascially, Orly's pissed at WND/Corsi, et al. cuz they are promoting everyone's cases except hers and are trying to syphon off 2 million birfer bucks. :lol: She talks about other campaigns to raise money by WND and WTF happened to it? What was done/accomplished. :-bd

And she spent 6k on her "fliers" and getting them out to 40 meeeelyon people and it's all there about Obama's fraudgate-ness.

Send money to Orly... NOT TO WND!! :P

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Much more at the link. Bascially, Orly's pissed at WND/Corsi, et al. cuz they are promoting everyone's cases except hers and are trying to syphon off 2 million birfer bucks. :lol: She talks about other campaigns to raise money by WND and WTF happened to it? What was done/accomplished. :-bd

And she spent 6k on her "fliers" and getting them out to 40 meeeelyon people and it's all there about Obama's fraudgate-ness.

Send money to Orly... NOT TO WND!! :P


Orly is continually pissed at everyone who does not actively agree with and support only her. So Orly is pissed at about 6 billion people minus 100 people.


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Taitz needs to notch up the crazy a bit in her next set of filings to get the attention focused back on her.

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from a supporter Joseph Greenberg
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Needed a bit of fixing.

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Taitz needs to notch up the crazy a bit in her next set of filings to get the attention focused back on her.


Agreed. Actually, I think Orly will be missing a big opportunity to nip this WND/Cold Case Posse business in the bud (as well as putting the money they have fraudulently solicited in her war chest--where it belongs), if she does not simply add them as defendants to her current case in Mississippi federal district court, and ask for at least $2 million in damages (what she would have certainly received from donors were it not for WND's solicitation) specifically from them.

But I don't think Oily's smart enough to do that...and she sure won't do it now that it's posted here. Oh well, too bad for her.

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Why I am challenging Obama, but not challenging Marco Rubio

Posted on | April 25, 2012 | No Comments

I was asked repeatedly: why am I challenging Obama, but not challenging Marco Rubio.

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Yes, we need a judicial determination of the meaning of the natural born citizen, however this is something that might take a long time and the outcome is uncertain. Even if the question is presented to the Supreme Court and the Supreme court eventually decides to rule on it, they might rule that one born in a country to permanent residents and political refuges, like Rubio’s parents, is considered to be a natural born citizen, as at the time Rubio was born, his parents were permanent residents, Cuba was under a hostile regime and they could not go back. His parents did not have allegiance to any other country at the time Rubio was born. I do not know, what the Supreme court will decide, if they ever take on this issue.

Who knew there was a Refugee Exception to Article II of the Consternation? I can almost see Scalia, Thomas and Scalito collaborating on the opinion.

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Who knew there was a Refugee Exception to Article II of the Consternation? I can almost see Scalia, Thomas and Scalito collaborating on the opinion.

And Cuba was a hostile regime. She said so herself. Am I to trust someone who was educated in a hostile regime? [-( That's scary!

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Taitz needs to notch up the crazy a bit in her next set of filings to get the attention focused back on her.


Hee Hee Hee, she did with the move back to Mississippi letter.

You asked, she delivered.

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Taitz needs to notch up the crazy a bit in her next set of filings to get the attention focused back on her.


Hee Hee Hee, she did with the move back to Mississippi letter.

You asked, she delivered.


My thoughts exactly. In a matter of minutes, she notched up the crazy so much that Mississippi will buzz like a hornet's nest. So, who will reply to protest at removal? Will she find the 'friendly territory' that she is looking for? I guess that makes any federal court 'unfriendly territory' for her claims.

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So, who will reply to protest at removal?
Nobody can make an intelligent response without at least looking at the Notice of Removal, which it's unclear whether she submitted it with the letter or not.

This is one of those situations where being real lawyers probably won't provide a lot of guidance to the Mississippi Supreme Court justices.

They'd be better off to brush up on their Lewis Carroll, instead. 8>

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Lady Liberty must be cooking up something good. Or else she's screeched out after her "Unlawful Removal" :lol: letter. I'm thinking it's the former, she's never this quiet for very long... :-k

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Lady Liberty must be cooking up something good. Or else she's screeched out after her "Unlawful Removal" :lol: letter. I'm thinking it's the former, she's never this quiet for very long... :-k


Well, she's waking up.

Comments on her not challenging Rubio post:

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April 25th, 2012 @ 7:00 pm

Orly I didn’t know there was an exception to the two-citizen-parent rule for refugees. I’m glad you clarified that.


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there is no official exception, the courts are simply refusing to take up this issue


Let's give her a chance to get caffeinated and see what happens.

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Don’t donate one cent to any campaign of any politician until they demand criminal prosecution of Obama for elections fraud and use of forged documents

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Dear Doctor Coburn,
I have just received a copy of a letter you are reported to have sent to a constituent containing the following paragraphs:

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Even so, while I disagree with most of President Obama’s policy positions, I believe he is a natural-born citizen and eligible to be President of the United States. My belief is based upon the fact that he was born in Hawaii, as the release of his long-form birth certificate proves, and his mother is a U.S. citizen. My staff has not found any evidence that contradicts these facts beyond conspiracy theories. Also, Sheriff Arpaio stated that his investigation does not prove that President Obama is constitutionally ineligible for office or that he personally committed fraud.It is also important to point out that in the 2008 election, each of the 50 states placed candidate Obama on its ballot and certified its election results. Individual states are responsible for determining the eligibility of their federal candidates, and all 50 states legitimized candidate Obama’s presidency in this way.


I am sorry, Doctor. Of course Sheriff Arpaio could NOT state that Obama was ineligible as that is not HIS job. But he can, AND DID, prove that the documents that Obama is using to “prove” his eligibility ARE FRAUDULENT! Naturally Obama would be smart enough to not have HIS “fingerprints” on that document!
How in Heaven’s name can you “prove” a point on FALSE information? The FACT that Obama/Soetoro has spent a reported TWO MILLION dollars hiding his past appears to have absolutely no bearing on your thought processes. IF he HAD a valid Hawaiian birth certificate, a TEN DOLLAR phone call and an equal clerical fee would have prevented ANY of this.

I hardly consider the fact that Mr. Obama/Soetoro exploited a loophole in our system (which after all was founded by people who realized our experiment in Liberty would ONLY work with people OF ETHICS!) whereby Nancy Pelosi lied to the States and the State officials failed to exercise due diligence, followed by a COMPLETE surrender of responsibilities in the Senate to see that the Constitution was being followed.
I also note a COMPLETE LACK of ANY attempt by the Senate, or Congress in general, to initiate ANY legislation to see that such a travesty WILL NOT BE REPEATED!
No, Doctor, this can NOT be laid off on the individual States, there is MORE than enough blame to go around, and it does NOT lie with those of us who have been complaining to our elected officials for some FOUR YEARS NOW!

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I've been wondering the same thing for a few years now.
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There are two matches for Richard H. Irish in Edmund, OK. One is 74 years old and the other is 81 (the 81 has a date of birth and is probably the right one).

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My dad's 84 and he's proud as hell about my anti-birfing. He wants to live long enough to cast another vote for Obama, and I believe he will do just that.

So score one for sane geezers, too also.

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My dad's 84 and he's proud as hell about my anti-birfing. He wants to live long enough to cast another vote for Obama, and I believe he will do just that.

So score one for sane geezers, too also.


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Hey! Being 84 allows you to be as smart as ever but pass as less than 100% there when it behooves you because of snap judgments too many of us make about our seniors. I am looking forward to people calling me eccentric for being exactly as I am today ... a little bit like "I Love Lucy" now and again and proud of it!


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Latest GoVote.com Dr. Orly Taitz approval -50%, Senator Diane Feinstein approval only 41%. Dr. Orly Taitz is ahead of Senator Feinstein by 9% in approval rating

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Yeah, Orly, about that poll... I just took it and it swung you down under 50. :)
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Not only does every vote count, but every vote seems to be swinging the results by more than 2%.

Implies 50-100 self-selected voters. I'd do my patriotic duty, but it requires registration.

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Not only does every vote count, but every vote seems to be swinging the results by more than 2%.

Implies 50-100 self-selected voters. I'd do my patriotic duty, but it requires registration.

No it doesn't. Just make your choice and it's instantly recorded. :)

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