Orly's latest poopies.....

raicha · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:39 am

It appears Florida allows written interrogatories to be served with the complaint as well:

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Florida Rules of Civil Procedure
RULE 1.340 INTERROGATORIES TO PARTIES

(a) Procedure for Use. Without leave of court, any party may serve upon any other party written interrogatories to be answered (1) by the party to whom the interrogatories are directed, or (2) if that party is a public or private corporation or partnership or association or governmental agency, by any officer or agent, who shall furnish the information available to that party. Interrogatories may be served on the plaintiff after commencement of the action and on any other party with or after service of the process and initial pleading upon that party.

If a defendant was actually served, that is.

DeeLite · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:49 am

MaineSkeptic wrote:

Litlebritdifrnt2 wrote:

Strangely enough my punctuation got passed other lawyers no problem but ...

... the Homonym squad, not so much.

P.S. I appreciate, enjoy, and utilize the Oxford Comma.

Offtopic :

I only use it, when it helps to stop ambiguity like this:

She gave the money to her two ex-husbands, Mary and Sally.

^^^^ so, her two ex-husbands are Mary and Sally??

this makes much more sense:

She gave the money to her two ex-husbands, Mary, and Sally.

^^^ much more understandable.

/end off topic on punctuation.

AnitaMaria · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:41 pm **Posts:** 2113

Litlebritdifrnt2 wrote:

Can anyone else find that Kelly Lincoln piece at Kos, cause I sure as hell cant.

ETA - never mind found it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/2 ... Orly-Taitz

Kelly is not a very good debunker. She seems to think that absence of evidence = evidence of absence. I have seen her make claims that Orly never paid her $20K fine because she (Kelly) has never seen evidence that she did.

Another point from Ms. Lincoln's post:

Kelly Lincoln wrote:

She lays down in that paragraph, that she did NOT attend Hebrew University,

Orly Taitz wrote:

worked hard to attain most difficult professional licensure,

Not exactly a slam-dunk you got there Kelly.

AnitaMaria · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:41 pm **Posts:** 2113

realist wrote:

According to the Hun, he has now received a Motion to Dismiss. The docket (I know, not always completely up to date) has not changed.

The claim about the motion to dismiss refers to Jerry Collette's case in Pasco County. That docket shows a motion to dismiss filed by the Florida Democratic Party.

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Case Name J COLLETTE VS B OBAMA
Case # 51-2012-CA-002041-XXXX-WS
Current Judge SECTION G
Case Type OTHER NEGLIGENCE-CA
Case Status OPEN
Filing Date 3/22/2012
Status Date 3/22/2012
Parties to this Case
Party Type Party Number Party Name Party Details
PLAINTIFF 1 COLLETTE JERRY addr-atty-alias
DEFENDANT 3 DOES 1 THROUGH 1000 addr-atty-alias
DEFENDANT 2 MEMBERS OF THE STATE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE FLORIDA DEMO addr-atty-alias
DEFENDANT 1 OBAMA BARAK addr-atty-alias
Register of Actions
Event Date Party No. Seq Event Comment
4/16/2012 DF 2 1 MTN TO DISMISS - CIVIL W/ATTACHMENTS
3/29/2012 PL 1 1 NOTICE: OF ERRATA
3/22/2012 9 FILE VERIFIED TO THIS POINT GC
3/22/2012 DF 2 8 SUMMONS ISSUED AND RETURNED TO PLTF
3/22/2012 DF 1 7 SUMMONS ISSUED AND RETURNED TO PLTF
3/22/2012 DF 1 6 RESP NTC SSN CONFIDENTIAL
3/22/2012 5 COMPLAINT:
3/22/2012 4 CIVIL COVER SHEET
3/22/2012 3 FILING OPENED FOR SRS
3/22/2012 PL 1 2 ASM:CA SUMMONS ISSUED
3/22/2012 PL 1 1 ASM:CA FF GENERAL

verbalobe · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:00 pm

O RLY wrote:

In the Soviet Union, where I lived as a child, science teachers lived in the same poor conditions and got the same minimal salaries as the factory workers.

I see a new senatorial campaign slogan for La Taitz:

Minimal Salaries for Factory Workers! Vote Taitz!

raicha · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:08 pm

I also have some trouble with Taitz' reading of civil procedure here, regarding the Mississippi case:

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12b motion is usually filed instead of an answer in order to shield the defendants from the discovery, however the defendants changed their tactics and filed an answer, so the subject matter of the motion hearing became moot

That ain't the law, but I think it will be better to let the defendants inform Taitz as to what the law actually is. Or maybe the Mississippi Supreme Court will educate her, as she included this ludicrous claim in her petition to replace Judge Coleman.

kate520 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:17 pm

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Yeah yeah, I know. She's a narcissist but she nails the hucksters Klaymen and the rest of the opportunists.

What's that schoolyard taunt? It takes one to know one. ;;)

poutine · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:44 pm

neonzx wrote:

O rly was burning the ~3:45am oil again.

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An open letter to a reader, answers regaring Larry Kleyman, WND and ORYR

Posted on | April 23, 2012 | No Comments

On February 10 there was a written solicitation to raise $25,000 for attorney Larry Kleyman and there was a written announcement that within a week, which would be by February 17, Kleyman is filing legal actions in FL and CA.

A couple of weeks later I wrote a truthful statement that Kleyman did not file any law suits.
Only about a month after he was supposed to file 2 law suits, and after I wrote my article, he finally substituted one plaintiff in one pro se law suit in FL, that’s it. Nothing was done in CA.
Recently Kleyman issued a statement, claiming that he is in discovery, saying that he is doing depositions, interrogatories, subpoenas.

It was a lie second time around. In order to be in discovery and have a right to do depositions, interrogatories and subpoenas, you need to have either a ruling from a judge, saying that a motion to dismiss by the defendants is denied and then you go into discovery or you need to have an actual answer from the defendants, not a motion to dismiss a case as one without merit, but an answer.
Again, I posted a printout from the docket of the only eligibility case, where Kleyman took over and it showed that he is not telling the truth. There was no answer filed in his case, there wasn’t even a motion to dismiss filed, there wasn’t even a proof of service of the defendants with his complaint. So he was simply outright lying to supporters, asking for money and saying that he is in discovery and doing depositions and interrogatories, when it was simply not true.

Correct me, if I am wrong, but out of over a 100 law suits filed by different attorneys and pro se plaintiffs, right now I am the only plaintiff and attorney-pro se in MS, who has an actual answer filed by the defendants and who can do discovery. As far as I know, there isn’t any other case around the country with discovery.

remainder at link above.

Yeah yeah, I know. She's a narcissist but she nails the hucksters Klaymen and the rest of the opportunists.

I am fascinated by her definition of success. Essentially, she views it as "getting the defense to file an answer." No matter that a motion to dismiss has also been filed, and that she has no chance in hell of obtaining any discovery whatsoever. But, she got past the complaint-and-answer stage so... success!

Amazing.

p.s. Orly: I have handled the defense of pro se lawsuits filed by functionally illiterate prison inmates who didn't even have high school degrees, which not only got past the answer stage but went on to full-blown discovery, including depositions of high-level officials. How pathetic that you can't even come close to their level of success.

BillTheCat · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:25 pm **Posts:** 1428

Taitz visits Doc C's:

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Orly Taitz April 23, 2012 at 11:01 am Orly Taitz(Quote) #

If I would be scared, I would not be filing a RICO case.
If defendants were so sure in their motions to dismiss, why didn”t they wait for a ruling and dismissal? why both of them filed an answer?
I raarely go on this site. If you want to answer, you can post a comment on orlytaitzesq.com

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/04/mississippi-judge-bails/#comment-181664

:lol:

raicha · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:13 pm

BillTheCat wrote:

Taitz visits Doc C's:

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Orly Taitz April 23, 2012 at 11:01 am Orly Taitz(Quote) #

If I would be scared, I would not be filing a RICO case.
If defendants were so sure in their motions to dismiss, why didn”t they wait for a ruling and dismissal? why both of them filed an answer?
I raarely go on this site. If you want to answer, you can post a comment on orlytaitzesq.com

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/04/mississippi-judge-bails/#comment-181664

:lol:

The answer to those questions can be found in the Mississippi rules of civil procedure, which Taitz really ought to read sometime, seeing as how she is now practicing law in Mississippi without a license.

poutine · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:10 pm

raicha wrote:

The answer to those questions can be found in the Mississippi rules of civil procedure, which Taitz really ought to read sometime, seeing as how she is now practicing law in Mississippi without a license.

This is an excellent example of why graduates of unaccredited law school programs should be banned from being attorneys. She has no understanding of the rules of procedure at all, even after 3 years of getting the shit kicked out of her by courts in numerous states that have cited those very rules.

Most law students and recent law graduates I encounter, from real law schools, are actually better experts on procedure than veteran lawyers. Their study of the rules is so intense, because they do things like actually read the entire International Shoe opinion of the U.S. Supreme Court, that they tend to know way more about them than is actually useful. Taitz's education flips this exactly on its head. She has never read International Shoe, and has no understanding of it at all.

The opinion, for the morbidly curious:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/h ... 10_ZS.html

woodworker · **Joined:** Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:54 pm **Posts:** 347

I am very confident that Orly will promptly apologize to Klayman. After all, we all know, love and respect Orly for her sense of fair play, justice and her absolute willingness to always do the honorable thing.

And Orly Taitz is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known.

verbalobe · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:53 pm

woodworker wrote:

I am very confident that Orly will promptly apologize to Klayman. After all, we all know, love and respect Orly for her sense of fair play, justice and her absolute willingness to always do the honorable thing.

And Orly Taitz is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known.

And desency. Don't forget the desency.

LM K · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:18 pm

neonzx wrote:

Damn, she's still awake!

:lol:

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=43118 :twisted:

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My response to the MSNBC Grapevine reporter Kelly Lincoln and Daily Kos. Do your homework before making accusations!

4 paragraph rule. Link above for rest. $\:D/$

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We exchanged 2 apartments for a one in a new 5 story apartment building, similar to projects in the US, where for a number of years 5 of us lived in a 2 bedroom apartment: my grandmother, my parents, my brother and I. I did not have a bedroom of my own, I did my homework in the living room and I slept on the couch in the living room. The whole apartment was 40 sq meters, it is about 400 sq.ft for a family of 5.

Oh, the HUMANITY!

Booo freaking hoo, Orly. Many Americans live like this right now.

tjh · **Joined:** Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:18 pm **Posts:** 2474

LM K wrote:

Booo freaking hoo, Orly. Many Americans live like this right now.

But it's THEIR FAULT !!!!

SueDB · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:35 pm

Not every one can find a guy with money.

Mikedunford · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:36 pm

tjh wrote:

LM K wrote:

Booo freaking hoo, Orly. Many Americans live like this right now.

But it's THEIR FAULT !!!!

Right. How dare they not marry well. After all, if she can do it, it's obvious, anyone, can.

RTH10260 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:47 pm

raicha wrote:

BillTheCat wrote:

Taitz visits Doc C's:

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Orly Taitz April 23, 2012 at 11:01 am Orly Taitz(Quote) #

If I would be scared, I would not be filing a RICO case.
If defendants were so sure in their motions to dismiss, why didn”t they wait for a ruling and dismissal? why both of them filed an answer?
I raarely go on this site. If you want to answer, you can post a comment on orlytaitzesq.com

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/04/mississippi-judge-bails/#comment-181664

:lol:

The answer to those questions can be found in the Mississippi rules of civil procedure, which Taitz really ought to read sometime, seeing as how she is now practicing law in Mississippi without a license.

Just wait until Orly jets into Jackson and makes discovery: a court house with a law library to snoop in a few minutes before her case is called. Reminiscences of HI #-o

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=43404 :twisted:

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See, how our young people were robbed of their future by corrupt politicians

Posted on | April 23, 2012 | No Comments

1 in 2 new graduates are jobless or underemployed

Aging workforce strains Social Security, Medicare

MrBrown · **Joined:** Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:21 pm **Posts:** 411

neonzx wrote:

Damn, she's still awake!

:lol:

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=43118 :twisted:

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My response to the MSNBC Grapevine reporter Kelly Lincoln and Daily Kos. Do your homework before making accusations!

Posted on | April 23, 2012 | No Comments
I have news for you Kelly. That is why I am fighting so hard. You, liberals and communists, :shock:

do not understand the extent of the nightmare that Marxist policies of Obama can unleash and are unleashing on this country. :yankyank:

In the Soviet Union, where I lived as a child, science teachers lived in the same poor conditions and got the same minimal salaries as the factory workers. Do you remember the slogans: everyone is equal (of course the Communist bosses, just like Orwellian pigs, Romney and the Koch Brothers are more equal then others).

Actually just a couple of years ago I made a present for my parents for their golden wedding anniversary, a trip to the old country. We went with my parents and 2 of my three sons. One had to study and couldn’t go. We visited the place, where we used to live, when I was a child. It was on the corner of Ilinskaya and Kuprianovskaya in Kischinev, across Ilinskii farmers market. While a particular shack where we lived is currently demolished, a number of similar shacks are still there and can be visited. There should be records in the city hall as well which we must not believe, under any circumstances....The shacks indeed are heated with stoves. I don’t know if they have heated water now, but at the time they had only cold running water, some did not even have bathrooms and used outhouses and many lived in one room shacks.

4 paragraph rule. Link above for rest. $\:D/$

She's another Abe Lincoln, growing up in a shack and all.
The Republican policies are aimed at turning the US teachers into paupers with little or no bargaining rights, and idiots like her try to say that is somehow "anti-Marxist"....
Boggles the mind. The credibility gap of the Republicans is a canyon that they try so hard to fill with poopaganda.
Basically, it comes down to this - if crazy dishonest Orly is for something, every sane decent American should be against it.

borealis · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:36 pm

Hey leave Abe out of this! Let's not insult his memory shall we? [-X

Paul Lentz · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:35 pm

Oily wrote:

We visited the place, where we used to live, when I was a child. It was on the corner of Ilinskaya and Kuprianovskaya in Kischinev, across Ilinskii farmers market. While a particular shack where we lived is currently demolished, a number of similar shacks are still there and can be visited. There should be records in the city hall as well. The shacks indeed are heated with stoves. I don’t know if they have heated water now, but at the time they had only cold running water, some did not even have bathrooms and used outhouses and many lived in one room shacks.

Only when I was about 7 years old and when my grandfather passed away, we could do an exchange. As all the housing was owned by the state, we could not buy or sell an apartment, but we could exchange. We exchanged 2 apartments for a one in a new 5 story apartment building, similar to projects in the US, where for a number of years 5 of us lived in a 2 bedroom apartment: my grandmother, my parents, my brother and I. I did not have a bedroom of my own, I did my homework in the living room and I slept on the couch in the living room. The whole apartment was 40 sq meters, it is about 400 sq.ft for a family of 5.

Which was it, Oily? Was it a "shack" (which implies a singular structure, often in close proximity to other singular structures) with cold running water, and located near other "shacks" which had no bathroom and required the use of an outhouse) that you lived in until you were 7? Or was it an "apartment" (which implies a collective of living spaces, often in a multi-story building--as was the apartment you say you moved to when you were 7, "in a new 5-story apartment building," and for which your parents and grandmother "exchanged" their previous two "apartments?"

Jeez, even in two close paragraphs you cannot keep your lies straight.

Paul Pieniezny · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:39 pm

TollandRCR wrote:

Did not Paul P. once provide information about where the Averbuch's/Auerbuch's lived in Kishinev? As I recall, it was discrepant with this tale by Orly. Contemporary accounts from the Soviet era refer to concrete housing blocks like those still seen in many Russian cities. It was the case that tenants of these blocks sometimes shared a kitchen and bathroom facilities.

Of course to someone who lives in the leaking Taj of Laguna Niguel, many American homes might be considered shacks. Some people still heat their homes with wooden stoves.

If Orly did not always lie, I would be more receptive to this story.

I have no idea myself about the location where they lived. Khrushchovka's, which usually had a small kitchen and a very small bathroom per apartment were built all over the Soviet Union in the same style from 1958 onwards. But if, as I believe the Averbukhs or at least father Averbukh, came originally from Orhei, they were probably at the bottom of the Kishinev waiting list in 1961 (there was priority for people who had lost their homes during the war, for handicapped and for families with lots of children). It is quite possible that they lived in a shack for anumber of years after Orly's birth. They probably never lived in one of these earlier blocks from the Stalin era with shared facilities (under Khrushchov, some of these were renovated and turned into student quarters).

Offtopic :

It is hard to imagine how standardized the building of the Khushchovskas was. In the film Irony of Faith the male protagonist wakes up (with a horrible hangover) in an airfield hall, and from then on more or less sleep drunk, goes out for a taxi, gives his address to the taxi driver, enters the apartment block, takes the lift to his floor, opens the door to the apartment with his key and drops asleep on the familiar sofa. It is New year's Eve and he is in for the surprise of his life. Because however familiar everything looks, he is not in Moscow, where he actually lives, but in Leningrad (now Saint Petersburg). The film was first shown on Russian TV on a New Year's Eve and has been shown on New Year's Eve ever since.

So, I would not immediately dismiss Orly's story for the first part of her life. But of course, she has lied to us before and the question is what Orly considers a shack. The first bath room I could call my own was a shared facility in the student accommodation I rented when I started as a tutor. And yes, I am talking Belgium 1976. So, according to Orly, perhaps I lived in a shack for the first 22 years of my life, because there was no bathroom in the houses we lived at and er, the toilet was outside. Ten years later, such housing had completely disappeared.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:43 pm

Taitz gives a bit of a location for her shack/2 apartments. Can someone with Russian language skills go to Google Earth and see what's there? I bet it's a block of huge apartment buildings as was the wont for construction in the USSR.

Litlebritdifrnt2 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:51 pm

My understanding of government housing in the USSR is based entirely on the movie "Citizen X" so I am sort of lost at this point. However I remember a point in the movie when he and his wife and kids were living in a 1 bedroom apartment and he was promoted. He told his commander that promoting him would move him from the waiting list for a two bedroom apartment and to the bottom of the new waiting list. His commander assured him that he would be on the top of the list for the "next two bedroom apartment". I have no reason to doubt that HBO got their shit straight with how things worked, but that is as much as I can offer.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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