Why didn't Obly have her personal videographer Wagner there to record the historic confrontation with Stay Puft Man?

That's Beth Chapman, wife of Dog the Bounty Hunter. Leave Beth alone.

ObWND: Gingrich meets eligibility attorney

The article is remarkably short -- very rare for WND.

Faint-praise damning.

FIFY

There is absolutely no evidence showing that Gingrich wants birferism to continue or that he knows who Orly Taitz is. None. Seriously, we spend so much time with these nutters that we do, at times, buy into their illusion that birferism is big. It isn't. Not anymore. And we are giving much too much credit to Orly.

Here is Orly's version of the encounter:



I don't believe for a minute that "a lot" of people began applauding and cheering. None of the news reports I have read have mentioned that. If "a lot" of people (or any) actually did do that, such behavior would have been actual news and reported on.

Orly asked Gingrich to answer her specifically on specific issues (if we believe Orly's version of the event; I do believe that she said what she said). Gingrich addressed none of this because it is bullshit. What did he do? He listed what he believes are the real issues and then told Orly to go play with her toys. He didn't even listen to her. As she said, she pointed out that she is "leading all of the legal challenges to Obama". Gingrich ignored all of that, and redirected the conversation by talking about real issues. He belittled Orly. His actions demonstrated that her concerns were too insane to even address.


I think that we need to get some perspective about how influential birferstan is. There is NO evidence that any of the current Repub candidates want birfers to continue spewing their bile. Such bile is a distraction from the real talking points candidates want to make. Repubs feel they can do damage to Obama on economics, health insurance and abortion issues. The economy is the issue that most Americans are most concerned about. The current Repub candidates are motivated to defeat Obama on his record, not on crazy conspiracy theories. They are also incredibly motivated to pounce on their rivals.

The birfers have pestered Repubs for years. Romney has blatantly said that the issue is settled. I don't think that Santorum, Gingrich or Paul have ever been asked about the issue in formal interviews. None of them have brought the issue up on their own. While some of the early candidates pandered to birfers, those candidates are gone. And they were laughed at for pandering to the birfers.

Do you think for a moment that birfers would be quiet if one of the remaining 4 demonstrated an inkling of support for birferism? No, they wouldn't. The birfers are crying because the Repub candidates are ignoring them.

We have to stop giving the birfers, esp Orly, so much power. The Repub party is sick of their shit. While there are random state nutters in local and state gov who pander to the birfers, most are sick and tired of this bullshit.

Finally, why should birfer nutters be treated differently than any other nutter that spouts bullshit during a Q/A at an event? What do candidates do when nutters go off? They smile and nod. Treating birfers any differently would highlight that their message might have meaning or worth. Birfers shouldn't receive special treatment. They don't deserve special treatment.

Thanks for clarifying, Kate. Orly's latest comment about tomatoes and toilets really are disgusting.

Where is Orly's proof that she is a citizen?

April 27, TPM:



He gets no pass from me. He has had chances to say "stop it, you guys are fruitcakes, and no serious person can believe any of your nonsense." But he doesn't. He grins, he laughs, he nods, "the whole thing is strange". He knows about the birthers. He's a complete ass, but he KNOWS things.

So when he doesn't tell the birthers to piss off, he doesn't for a reason. He doesn't want to risk it. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to be a "serious" person but he can't afford to lose the crazies. HE is the one who is giving the birthers importance by his actions, not US. If he didn't think they had importance, he wouldn't worry about offending them.

(Somewhat contrary to my argument is the fact that he offends people right and left, but I'm sticking with my argument anyway.)

LMK - she doesn't have any. That reporter has now been hounding her for months and so far Orly has produced bupkis. I am still convinced and have been saying for at least a year that Orly believes she is a citizen because she married Yosi, just like her complete and utter lack of knowledge of the rules of the courts and of litigation, she has no clue about the immigration rules. She believes that because she married Yosi she "automatically" became a citizen, paperwork be damned. If Orly can produce her naturalization paperwork I will eat my hat.

BTW all it takes is one California citizen to challenge her candidacy in CA, and demand to "see her papers". Alas I am in NC and cannot do it. Can't one of our CA Fogbowers file a challenge? Considering the grief she is causing all over the damn country it is about time someone caused her grief in CA. File the challenge, Subpoena her ass to show up at a hearing and bring her damn papers.

Slight difference. Better Yiddish descriptor.

I'm not feeling real inclined to give Newt a break on this one.

If the Republican Party is sick of birthers, then it's time for them to step up and deal with the monster that they created. The birthers, as a movement, are a natural consequence of the reckless disregard for the truth that the modern Republican party has consistently displayed in their obscene eagerness to play the politics of personal destruction.

Seriously, if Republicans are tired of the birthers (and I don't doubt that some are), too fucking bad. The Republicans have had no problem using talk radio hosts that call Democrats and liberals mentally ill, evil, and traitorous to fire up their small-minded bigoted base. The Republicans have had no problem with conservative commentators writing book after book that talks about how the liberals are actively seeking to destroy all that is good about America. The Republicans didn't even have a problem with having a Vice-Presidential candidate throwing out sound bites like "paling around with terrorists". They created the nurturing environment for the birthers, so screw them if they don't like what sprung out of that environment.

And lets not forget that we've just come away from a public hearing in a case in Georgia where a serving Republican legislator represented a Republican county chair in a challenge that claims that Barack Obama isn't American enough to be the President whether he was born in Hawaii or not.

No, I'm not giving Newt a pass.

Smiling and nodding does nothing to signal that attacking the patriotism of our political opponents is wrong. It does nothing to bring us back to a point where there can be an actual debate on real issues, instead of a race to see who can make it the farthest under the lowest common denominator. Smiling and nodding is not part of the solution. We expect far too little from politicians today, and I'm tired of it.

Well, I am in California and I PROMISE I will do that, once her paperwork is complete and she is an official candidate. I think I will need some direction on what to do and when to do it but I think I will probably get some free advice here to make a challenge happen.

Fucking A, bro!!!

Well she heard you.


http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=31790

This is a coupla months old, but still .. .



Calbuzz Consultanate: No Serious GOP Threat to DiFi

There's a fantastic example of how politicians should respond to the birthers in the Indiana thread. It's a response that Senator Sessions is sending out to his constituents when they question the President's eligibility:


That's the kind of response that the birthers deserve. That's what Newt should have done.

Well, if he really wanted to show respect, he could have capitalized President. It should be "Congress and the President", not "Congress and the president"

He seems to capitalize it when he's referring to the person, but not when it's referring to the office. Not quite sure what the proper rules are here for this.

Thanks, Listeme! I missed that.

Mike, you're comparing apples and fig Newtons . Show me an instance where Sessions says that when cornered publicly by a birfer at a major event; then you will be comparing apples and apples.

That answer pisses me off no end.

A) it was released in 2008, long before the election.

B) he didn't/doesn't have to release it at all. No one else ever has.

Where's yours Mr. Illegitimate? What's taking so long?

asshat

I'd love to see someone ask him that. If it weren't for Newt's own murky beginnings that he glosses over, he'd probably be all over the birther issue.

I've always followed one of the rules that you capitalize President when referring to the office since it is a proper noun and also a title. It does refer to the name of a specific position.

But what do I know, I like pay toilets.

Hmm, that's only 249 words when the max is 250. Orly must be getting concise in her old age.

249 words to say what your average high school graduate can say in 25 words.

"I am a nutjob and I am running for Senate."

I only count 10.