Charles Edward Lincoln, III

Plutodog · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:31 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

CEL³ helped Taitz ramp up the crazy in a most nasty, insidious way. He could insult without sounding completely crazy doing it. Since he has left Taitz's side her ridiculous filings appear to be more the ravings of a lunatic who knows nothing about the law than a determined, educated seditionist trying to undermine the courts and overthrow the system, and doing so in the most disrespectful way possible.

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Chilidog · **Joined:** Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:36 pm **Posts:** 1971

It is too bad Chuck will never have to testify as to what he knows about Orly's funding strategies. Can you imagine what cross examination screach by Orly would sound like?

Foggy · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:45 pm

He has a credibility problem. His testimony wouldn't be worth much, without documented corroboration on every point.

Joseph Robidoux III · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:28 pm

If anyone says "Pictures or it didn't happen", lets agree it didn't happen.

There would be a nation-wide run on brain bleach.

lyssandri · **Posted:** Sat May 05, 2012 1:15 pm

I don't understand how this credit thing is supposed to work. Could someone write a "for dummies" outline? It sounds to me like she's having her law 'clients' apply for credit for dental work, but no dental work is ever done. But someone still would have to repay the creditor who paid out the loan, so it seems to me that both the "client" and Orly end up with the same amount of money as they would without the illegal activity. Clearly, I'm wrong on this, but I'm not sure where or how.

Thanks!

~k

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23583

Client/Patient applies for loan
Loan company approves loan to client/patient
Loan company issues check to Orly
Orly gets her fee up front and in full
Client/patient is allowed to pay is client/patient fee out by month

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Sat May 05, 2012 1:34 pm

I hope that no one is suggesting that "clients" or "donors" with dental insurance made claims for dental work that didn't occur, giving the money to some dentist-lawyer-political decedent? [-X

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23583

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

I hope that no one is suggesting that "clients" or "donors" with dental insurance made claims for dental work that didn't occur, giving the money to some dentist-lawyer-political decedent? [-X

Not that I've seen.

At the request of a member, I did post a brief outline of how a loan works .

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Sat May 05, 2012 1:40 pm

That's good, Realist, because I am SURE that would never happen.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23583

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

That's good, Realist, because I am SURE that would never happen.

I live to serve. ;;)

esseff44 · **Posted:** Sat May 05, 2012 1:45 pm

CELIII did more than suggest such a scheme which is why it is being discussed as a possibility. Where would he get such a crazy idea? :-k

SueDB · **Posted:** Sat May 05, 2012 1:48 pm

realist wrote:

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

That's good, Realist, because I am SURE that would never happen.

I live to serve. ;;)

I wonder how many of her "clients" are using this to accumulate Dental Bills which are deductible from the Income Taxes? She is actually manufacturing a fraud factory. That would really be a selling point. Also medical necessity may require a loan when the borrower has crappy/destroyed/no credit or bad credit rating. After all, you can always repossess a couple of crowns and some dentures from fools.

$40,000.00 worth of dental bills may seem extreme to anyone but an IRS computer?

HHHmmmmm

corbanda · **Joined:** Thu May 24, 2012 6:57 pm **Posts:** 13

I wonder where Charles Lincoln's son is these days. The last thing we heard was back at St John's. Any idea what is going on?

corbanda · **Joined:** Thu May 24, 2012 6:57 pm **Posts:** 13

Does anyone know where Charles Lincoln's son is or what he is up to?

The last we heard was that he was heading to St. John's College. However, even on Charles' website, he hasn't confirmed seeing him. This may imply that Charles Lincoln and his son haven't met. Does anyone have any information? It seemed like a dismal story. What is the opinion of others?

Estiveo · **Posted:** Sun May 27, 2012 12:25 am

Corbanda, we don't mess with the kids. We just don't, even if they be adults. Welcome to the Fogbow, but please leave the children of these morons alone. KTHKSBYE.

Plutodog · **Posted:** Sun May 27, 2012 12:35 am

Word.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Sun May 27, 2012 12:45 am

OTOH we were revolted about the way CEL³ dragged his son into all of his misconduct, starting with a horrendous divorce and spiraling downhill from there.

I hope the kids of all the birther loonies overcome the horrible role modeling and shine brightly.

Estiveo · **Posted:** Sun May 27, 2012 12:50 am

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

OTOH we were revolted about the way CEL³ dragged his son into all of his misconduct, starting with a horrendous divorce and spiraling downhill from there.

I hope the kids of all the birther loonies overcome the horrible role modeling and shine brightly.

This, of course, is Truth.

corbanda · **Joined:** Thu May 24, 2012 6:57 pm **Posts:** 13

I am in agreement. I bet it's rather hard for the birther kids to deal with such parents. It probably makes them want to go in the complete opposite direction.

Speaking of which is Charles Lincoln still working as a birther? It doesn't seem as he is. It seems he has stopped communications with them. Any ideas?

Does anyone understand the V for Vendetta mask on Charles Lincoln's website? Isn't that the mask for the group Anonymous? Is he part of that group?

GreatGrey · **Posted:** Sun May 27, 2012 1:50 am

Estiveo wrote:

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

OTOH we were revolted about the way CEL³ dragged his son into all of his misconduct, starting with a horrendous divorce and spiraling downhill from there.

I hope the kids of all the birther loonies overcome the horrible role modeling and shine brightly.

This, of course, is Truth.

Hah, not verified! I'm calling Arpiao.

Plutodog · **Posted:** Sun May 27, 2012 1:57 am

GreatGrey wrote:

Hah, not verified! I'm calling Arpiao.

You mean Rudy? :-?

Estiveo · **Posted:** Sun May 27, 2012 4:32 am

Plutodog wrote:

GreatGrey wrote:

Hah, not verified! I'm calling Arpiao.

You mean Rudy? :-?

Pfft, Corsi, direct to the source.

esseff44 · **Posted:** Sun May 27, 2012 2:01 pm

corbanda wrote:

Quote:

Does anyone understand the V for Vendetta mask on Charles Lincoln's website? Isn't that the mask for the group Anonymous? Is he part of that group?

That is a stylized Guy Fawkes mask and it was adopted by a lot of anti-establishments types...not just Anonymous. IIRC, CELIII had the image on his website before Anonymous became well-known.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta_mask

The mask goes back to 1982.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Sun May 27, 2012 3:00 pm

Guy Fawkes or V for Vendetta?

Of course, the real symbol for CEL³ isn't quite as imposing or "vigilante."

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Sun May 27, 2012 3:23 pm

In CEL III's case, doesn't the "V" stand for the "V" in Deo Vindice, the motto on the Great Seal of the Confederacy?

I know it is odd for a man who took the name "Lincoln" (once "Linck") to associate with the Confederacy, but CEL III is a bag of anomalies. (Harvard PhD, Chicago JD, loony, disbarred, lover of Orly Taitz)

On his Tierra Limpia Web site, CEL III has the following post:

Quote:

“The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite.” - Thomas Jefferson

The Motto Deo Vindice has special meaning in New Orleans, the City where Jeff Davis died December 6, 1889 while visiting from his last home at Beauvoir, Mississippi for the Dedication of Memorial Hall.
...
If anyone thinks it’s ironic that Deo Vindice advocates liberty and commemorates the memory of the Confederate States, I can only say: study your history. It is the United States Government of today that, through Welfare and Destruction of Individual autonomy and freedom under the Constitution, transforms all Americans into helpless children, wards of the state, essentially “slaves” on a great national plantation called North America, where true equality exists. It is the equality of a world where NO ONE owns private property, NO ONE has the right to raise their children, NO ONE has the rights to the fruits of their labor.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

Charles Edward Lincoln, III

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