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Your signature has intrigued me for a while. First, I want to join the Coffee Party. Second, I listened to the Rush song:


Cool! I'm glad you checked them out :)

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I think there is more than one good dissertation to be written in sociology about the effects of singers and bands in teaching and reshaping society. To date myself, I was certainly changed by the songs of Peter, Paul, and Mary, and those of Bob Dylan, as I unlearned what I had been taught in East Texas.

Lyrics. They are well worth reading.


Lyrically, "Witch Hunt" has been one of my favourite songs of theirs since I first heard it 30 years ago. I find it extremely sad and frustrating that it's just as relevant today as it was then. And you're right about music and musicians having an impact on society. I know that a lot of my views and beliefs have been shaped by concepts I first ran into in a Rush song, or viewpoints they presented that I had really considered before. I mean, it's not like "Oh, Rush said it, therefore it is true" by ANY stretch, but in general, if I hear something in a song they've done that I haven't heard before, I generally think it's worth at least a few minutes of consideration just to toss it around in the ol' brain bucket :)

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^^^^^^^^^ THIS THIS THIS!

Pretty and supremely eloquent. :xo

How do you feel about redheads? ;;)


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I struggled with this issue for a long time. I believe that Orly has a mental illness. She has at least one personality disorder, and I often wonder if she has hypomanic-manic episodes. She certainly meets the criteria for hypomania/mania at times.

I reached a turning point on this issue about 12-18 months ago. Orly started researching an infant death that occurred in Chicago. She accused Obama and his team of ritually sacrificing Baby Renee to Satan. I think it is extremely likely that Orly tracked Baby Renee's family down and harassed them. She asked her FMs to track down info on Baby Renee her relatives at least six times.

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=5060
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=5259
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You asked about Renee Lee Abena Obama, well, a long time ago I read the Three Stooges Go To Washington by Don Nicoloff. This is what he wrote over a year ago about this child –
Renee L. Abena Obama.

The most shocking discovery about BHO was hidden within David Obama’s “relatives” list and it casts a very, very dark occultic shadow on BHO. The name “Renee Abena Obama” appeared. Who is Renee Abena Obama? Actually, the proper question is, “Who was Renee L. Abena Obama?” An exhaustive search revealed the birth of a baby girl named Renee L. Abena Obama on October 31, 2004. The infant died less than two months later on December 25, 2004.

Young infants frequently die from congenital complications, though the death was not reported by any hospital in the State of Maryland, but by a funeral home (indicated by the SSDI code “72″).

BHO’s biographies do not report the death of an infant in 2004, yet here was a baby girl who bore his last name—and the initial of his grandmother’s middle name—Madelyn “Lee” Dunham. A search of the Social Security Death Index produced “No Results,” though a genealogical index at WorldVitalRecords.com produced a Social Security number: “215-71-0752.”

Entering the number directly into a search revealed its owner:
Name: Renee L Abena Obama
Birth Date: 31 October 2004 (Historical Events)
Death Date: 25 December 2004 (Historical Events)
Issuing State: Maryland
SSN: 215-71-0752

A subsequent review of birth and death dates of the Dunham family revealed a startling coincidence—Ralph Waldo Emerson Dunham (BHO’s maternal great-grandfather) was born on December 25, 1894—exactly 110 years before Renee’s death. Renee was born under strange circumstances. Her death at age two months was strangely reported with almost no details memorialized in the public record.

For those tracking SS# The Three Stooges article talked about all of these multiple SS#s, addresses, identities etc as well.

Did you know this – “Getting back to Stanley Ann, the birth date of “Kelly Ann Dunham” is listed as November 8, 1964. Stanley Ann is purported to have died on “November 7, 1995. The next day, “Kelly Ann” was “born,” though the year is obviously modified to account for her being an adult. A search of the Social Security Death Index produces “No Results” with the name and S.S. number “079-52-7004,” (the number given to Stanley Ann) so the birth/death record is also fictitious. However, the number entry alone does produce a record with


http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=5232
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=5298
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=9445
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=11957

One of Orly's FMs posted a link to this; all comments are moderated on Orly's site, so she has to allow such filth to be posted:

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Renee was born under strange circumstances. Her death at age two months was strangely reported with almost no details memorialized in the public record. Therefore, we have the "authority" to speculate on the significance of Baby Renee L. Abena Obama’s short life.

The Illuminati has a penchant for Satanic rituals with numerological significance. The 110-year time period represents the number "11," a powerfully mystical number symbolizing "one greater than God." In short, Dunham’s birth December 25, 1894, marked the beginning and Renee’s Dec. 25, 2004 death marked the end. Renee Obama also lived a total of 56 days. Adding (5+6) produces another "11."

This baby’s death had all the earmarks of a Satanic sacrifice. That day could have marked Barack Obama’s full submission to the authority of the Illuminati.

There were no significant worldwide events on October 31, 2004, other than the modern celebration of the pagan "All Hallows Eve." Of course, December 25th represents the pagan birthdate celebration of Christ, so that date (the number of days the baby lived and Dunham’s birthday) were all occultically significant.

The following day, December 26, 2004, was a significant day for the whole world. A tsunami struck Indonesia, killing 146,000 people. The numerology on this published death toll is, again, "11" (1+4+6). The "11:11" derived from the two sequential events (the ritual sacrifice of a 2-month-old baby and the 146,000 victims of the tsunami) also symbolizes a new beginning.

Renee L. Abena Obama’s death should also mark the beginning of another event—a murder investigation.


My then birfer persona asked Orly and her FMs to not contact the family of Baby Renee. That comment was never posted, even though my other posts were. Why wasn't that comment allowed through moderation? Orly didn't allow that comment because she wanted her FMs to contact the family that lost a 2 month old infant.

Then Orly began to research Virginia Sunahara. We have learned that Orly's FMs went to Baby Virginia's mother, said they were "researchers" (implying media or academic in nature), and asked this 83 year old mother to tell them about Baby Virginia's death and burial. They then asked her to give them Baby Virginia's Birth Certificate. Mrs. Sunahara was quite polite and answered the FM's questions as best she could. She didn't know where Baby Virginia's BC was and she refused to order a copy from the HI DoH for the FMs. What did the FMs do next? They tracked down Mrs. Sunahara's son and harassed him into helping them.

When Orly and her FMs began discussing Baby Renee's death, I lost

Every.

Single.

Ounce.

of care or concern for Dr. Orly Taitz Esq.

While Orly has a personality disorder, she is in complete control of her actions. She knows the difference between right and wrong. Orly makes conscious choices to engage in hateful, hurtful and vicious behavior. Orly knows she crosses the line regularly. She has been contacted by the CA Bar, and they did work with her behind the scenes. No disciplinary actions were taken, but she had to hire a lawyer to represent her interests while the Bar was informally looking into her. When she was working with the CA Bar to avoid a formal investigation, she posted "The articles posted represent only the opinion of the writers, do not necessarily represent the opinion of Dr. Taitz, Esq. Dr. Taitz, Esq. has no means of checking the veracity of all the claims and allegations in the articles." Only after the CA Bar intervened did Orly stop posting death threats against the POTUS.

Orly has encouraged members of the military to violate military orders which have threatened/ended their careers. Orly ruins lives. She does so knowingly and willingly. She knows exactly what will happen to her FMs victims. She has encouraged her FMs to engage in behavior that has threatened their safety and the well-being of their families. She begs them for money that they don't have, even though her lawsuits are her own and her husband and she are multimillionaires.

Orly isn't fragile. She isn't a victim. She is a violator; she engages in criminal behavior. Orly bullies and she yells. Her "victim" persona is her mask. It allows her to get away with shit that most people wouldn't get away with.

Dr. Blue, Orly perceives our mere existence as a group as an insult. She has attacked individuals here. She has threatened member's jobs, property and safety. Her most vicious attacks happened before we had really even become and organized group. She attacked members for politely disagreeing with her; some didn't interact with her at all but she still went after them. One doesn't have to poke at her or interact with her on any level. One simply has to be a member of TFB to be her target.

Orly thrives on all of this. She loves it. Before the birfer phenomena, she harassed and bullied others. We have recorded those actions here.

50% of Americans experience some form of mental illness at some time in their life (gang, let's not threadjack about this). Most who are chronically and/or severely mentally ill don't hurt other people purposefully; they rarely hurt others at all. They are more a danger to themselves than others. Orly is different; she lashes out at others regularly. She purposefully harms others for her own petty, vindictive joy. She verbally assaulted 2 of our members at the HI hearing on Fri.

Being mentally ill does not excuse one from being a decent human being when one is able to control their behaviors. Having bipolar disorder does not excuse me from my legal and ethical responsibilities. It doesn't excuse me from being a decent human being.

Orly gives as good as she gets. Sometimes she gives better than she gets. She has made conscious choices and relies on manipulative behavior to get her way. She has posted violent and seditious material on her website. It was only after the CA Bar had a chat with Orly that she stopped posting comments calling for the assassination of Obama and the murders of his wife and children (Orly has posted some very vile things about Obama's daughters).

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I don't know what the ethical thing here actually is. With an ordinary person with a mental illness, I would abhor such games. Orly isn't an ordinary person. She's a dangerous, ruthless individual who uses her privileges both financially and as a member of the California bar to harass many innocent people, be they the President of the United States or the family of a deceased infant. The courts, except for Judge Land (and hopefully Judge Nishimura), seem disinterested in putting a stop to such things, even when she's lied to the courts repeatedly and used illegally obtained "evidence" that isn't even evidence of anything.


As always, well said, Hektor.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:10 am 
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Hmmm. Redheads?

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...........Even if no one here did anything to oppose her, she'd still have an unbroken string of fails. I think people are fooling themselves if they think they are patriots saving the country, rather than people just doing this for their own entertainment.



Yes, we're doing this mostly for our own amusement, and no, I don't think there's anything particularly patriotic about it.

What I do think is worthwhile, however, is providing a degree of "back-pressure" on the birfers. People believe what they want to believe, and there are a lot of racist folks in the US who would love to believe that President Obama isn't qualified for office. There are a lot of outlets for those false beliefs, and without some sort of counterbalance the falsehoods end up being accepted as truth (got WMD?).

Most of our "victories" are symbolic at best. Handing Dr Drew his ass on the platter of his academic record was fun, but we know it isn't going to change much, if anything. Reporting on O'rly's epic courtroom fails doesn't accomplish much more, but it does at least give us (and anyone interested) an accurate accounting of what really happened in the courtroom. It also gives us a topic to rally around, provides good fodder for RC radio and the chat rooms, and lets the legal jocks edjumacate us on the finer points of just how epic the fails are. Great fun! Oh, and it helps feed O'rly's paranoia, which I kinda think is a good thing ;)

Finally, we occasionally accomplish something a lot more significant. When raicha decoded the bar code that identified Col Hollister as the person who had impersonated President Obama and altered his Selective Service records, it had a material impact on Birfer activities. Mr Hollister has all by disappeared from the Birfer scene because of this, and should O'rly ever manage to get that particular 'zibit entered into evidence, it's possible that her activities could leave the realm of the surreal and enter the realm of the criminal [-o<

The topic of this thread is about the breakdown that never comes, and recently it's about whether she deserves to poked with a sharp stick. I think LMK just did a good job of explaining why, if anything, she isn't being poked enough.

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Well Stern, I don't know how to state it any better than that. I believe it is immoral to purposely push someone down a path to self-destruction and harm, to both herself and others, even if that person is Orly Taitz. I will ridicule her self-induced failures, but the "self-induced" part is what makes it ridicule-worthy. I also believe it is immoral to torture terrorists, even someone as evil as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed - the evilness of the target should not be used as an excuse for inhumane actions. But I'll laugh my ass off at terrorists who blow themselves up due to their own incompetence. (Too serious for the Fogbow?


I find the idea of torturing a terrorist to be completely repugnant in every regard, and would never dream of doing such a thing. On the other hand, I have absolutely no problem with providing a terrorist with the sort of bomb-making "assistance" that will result in him splattering himself harmlessly across his garage.

Orly is not a helpless, restrained prisoner. Orly's doing her incompetent best to overthrow the elected president. I could almost see leaving her alone, given her utter incompetence in every conceivable area, if that's all that she was doing. It's not. Orly does not care who she hurts while she's trying to get her way, and she inspires others - like Haskins - to cause further harm to other innocent bystanders. She is deluded and paranoid, yes, but she's also vindictive, hate-filled, and vengeful.

I do think that Orly needs help, and I honestly do hope that she gets that help before she completely destroys herself and her family. As things stand now, however, Orly is still capable of causing quite a bit of harm in her own spiteful way. If there's a chance that telling her to go ahead and splice the black wire to the red will hasten the end of her efforts to harm others, I see no reason not to do it.

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This redhead claimed Hektor almost immediately after he joined PJ/TFB. Don't make me cut you, bitch! :lol: :-* :hug:

I'm a redhead too. Seems to be quite a few of us here.

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Yes, we're doing this mostly for our own amusement, and no, I don't think there's anything particularly patriotic about it.

What I do think is worthwhile, however, is providing a degree of "back-pressure" on the birfers. People believe what they want to believe, and there are a lot of racist folks in the US who would love to believe that President Obama isn't qualified for office. There are a lot of outlets for those false beliefs, and without some sort of counterbalance the falsehoods end up being accepted as truth (got WMD?).

Most of our "victories" are symbolic at best. [-( [-( Handing Dr Drew his ass on the platter of his academic record was fun, but we know it isn't going to change much, if anything. Reporting on O'rly's epic courtroom fails doesn't accomplish much more, but it does at least give us (and anyone interested) an accurate accounting of what really happened in the courtroom. It also gives us a topic to rally around, provides good fodder for RC radio and the chat rooms, and lets the legal jocks edjumacate us on the finer points of just how epic the fails are. Great fun! Oh, and it helps feed O'rly's paranoia, which I kinda think is a good thing ;)

Finally, we occasionally accomplish something a lot more significant. When raicha decoded the bar code that identified Col Hollister as the person who had impersonated President Obama and altered his Selective Service records, it had a material impact on Birfer activities. Mr Hollister has all by disappeared from the Birfer scene because of this, and should O'rly ever manage to get that particular 'zibit entered into evidence, it's possible that her activities could leave the realm of the surreal and enter the realm of the criminal [-o<

The topic of this thread is about the breakdown that never comes, and recently it's about whether she deserves to poked with a sharp stick. I think LMK just did a good job of explaining why, if anything, she isn't being poked enough.


I think we do give a huge service. We are the go to place for the media. Several of our members have been interviewed for HuffPo, the New Yorker (or was it New York Mag?), Salon, the SPLC, OC Weekly, and a couple of other large news providers that I forget right now. Several MSM who cover the birfers a lot are members here. Jack Ryan provides docs on Scribd that wouldn't usually be read by anyone unless he and we tracked this stuff.

I think that I can safely say that we shattered birfistan, creating little fiefdoms that fight against each other rather than fighting together for a common cause. Some of our members have completely destroyed major birfer websites; Foggy and Rikker crashed Greta Wire. A handful of us caused so much chaos and infighting at Berg's forum that it no longer exists. Dangerous birfers have received visits from the FBI or Secret Service based on tips we have provided. Court staff has been warned about potential dangerous situations, and were thus prepared for birfer violence or disruptions. IIRC, one birfing cop had his ass handed to him because we learned of his illegal actions committed for the birfer cause and reported him. And Raicha kicked Hollister's ass. Ellie Wyatt made sure that the entire world understood that donations to Orly were not tax deducible, thus decreasing her income. I think that we definitely contributed to the Berg v Taitz war that has raged for almost 2 years now (my fake birfer persona was asked for an affidavit in Liberi v Taitz). There are other accomplishments that May Not Be Named.

Yeah, we deserve to brag. We shouldn't be humble. We made sure that the media understood why the birfers were so utterly ridiculous and we helped them spread the word. We made sure that people were safe.

Imagine what America would think about Obama if we hadn't crushed birfistan directly and indirectly.

Just call yourself Allison on a birfer website. See what happens! :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:



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