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 Post subject: Queen Kapiolani
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:28 am 
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one of the cornerstones to Birfism is the contradiction when naming the Hawaiian hospital were he was born.
Queen's Hospital or Kapiolani Medical Center ? Or whatever ?


some confusion can arise because the QUEEN and KAPIOLANI are actually the same person QUEEN KAPIOLANI
and this is a gentleman referring to his daughter being born at QUEEN KAPIOLANI HOSPITAL

http://caccioppoli.com/Caccioppoli%20family.htm

anyways here is Queen Kapiolani and her troubling resembleance to Obama's daughter

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:30 am 
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She is beautiful...and I bet those clothes were realllllly hot in Hawaii, all that humidity and all.

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 Post subject: Re: Queen Kapiolani
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greatkim wrote:
anyways her is Queen Kapiolani and her troubling resembleance to Obama's daughter

It really is remarkable, isn't it?! Maybe that will be the next conspiracy theory.

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 Post subject: Re: Queen Kapiolani
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:20 am 
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at this point I would call it evidence

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Awww! That picture made my day. Love it!

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 Post subject: Queen Kapiolani
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Don't forget Queen Liliuokalani, the last queen...she wrote the song Aloha 'Oe.


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Another plague was imported to Hawaii, Hansen's Disease (leprosy). No one knows how or exactly when it migrated to Hawaii, but it seems likely to have come in with foreign laborers who had been hired to work on the sugar cane plantations as the native population fell. It probably came from an area where it was endemic, which would mean much of East Asia. Colonization thus delivered a second blow to the native Hawaiian population, the first being the diseases imported by Europeans and Americans (who also contracted Hansen's Disease). A leper's hospital and colony was established in 1866 on an island, Kalaupapa. Now that the contagiousness of the disease can be powerfully controlled, the island is trying to establish a tourist business. People are living with Hansen's Disease today.

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A leper's hospital and colony was established in 1866 on an island, Kalaupapa. Now that the contagiousness of the disease can be powerfully controlled, the island is trying to establish a tourist business. People are living with Hansen's Disease today.


Hi, Mr. Anal Geography Weenie here! Just wanted (OCD compels me) to point out that Kalaupapa is the town, on the peninsula of the same name, where the colony was located; Molokai is the island.

I will now go back to washing my hands and counting things. Thank you.

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TollandRCR wrote:
Another plague was imported to Hawaii, Hansen's Disease (leprosy). No one knows how or exactly when it migrated to Hawaii, but it seems likely to have come in with foreign laborers who had been hired to work on the sugar cane plantations as the native population fell. It probably came from an area where it was endemic, which would mean much of East Asia. Colonization thus delivered a second blow to the native Hawaiian population, the first being the diseases imported by Europeans and Americans (who also contracted Hansen's Disease). A leper's hospital and colony was established in 1866 on an island, Kalaupapa. Now that the contagiousness of the disease can be powerfully controlled, the island is trying to establish a tourist business. People are living with Hansen's Disease today.


When I lived in the complex of old, worn-out shacks in "Waikiki Jungle", Honolulu, called 'Koa Cottages' in 1970-71, where Frank Marshall Davis lived at the time, one of the residents was John Lima and his wife, Sara (who John & everybody else called Mama).

John was probably in his very late 60s, a small man, Native Hawaiian and a veteran. He only spoke pigeon, but I spoke it too. He had advanced leprosy-- one leg gone and all fingers gone and toes of the remaining foot. He reeked like death from the decaying tissues. He went to the Vet hospital every couple of weeks for treatment and meds. He had a prosthetic leg, but only wore it for special occaisions-- he hopped around, mostly.

He was a drunk and a marvelous character. He was MADLY crazy about Sara, called "Mama". He thought she was the most fabulous human ever to have lit on earth from heaven. She was HUGE! About 6-2", big-boned and fat. Obesity is regarded by many traditional Polynesians as a mark of extreme beauty and class. Sara couldn't talk. I never was quite sure if she was retarded or had had a severe stroke. I think the former. She liked to drink too, but though John drank alla time, he knew it was not good for Sara, so only on Saturdays, he would happily and lovingly buy her a pint of gin to go with the beers. Sara loved Saturdays.

We (mostly young hippehs) would all party all day Saturday on the shack porches together with John and Sarah and laugh and sing and dance into the night. Invariably, after everybody had gone to bed, John Lima would frantically toddle down the row of shacks calling, "Mama fall down!! Tony! Come! Mama fall down! George! Come! Billy! Mama fall down!" So half a dozen fellas all got up and managed somehow to carry happy, huge Sara from the lawn to her bed. Every Saturday.

Nicest folks I ever met, John and Sara. And totally crazy. :D


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elliewyatt wrote:
When I lived in the complex of old, worn-out shacks in "Waikiki Jungle", Honolulu, called 'Koa Cottages' in 1970-71, where Frank Marshall Davis lived at the time


And meanwhile, around the same time, over at the Ohana Nui housing at Hickam AFB, I was watching Kikada and Rainbow Man episodes and attending school at Chester Nimitz Elementary.

My how the time flies, eh?

(You know, I betcha Obama watched Kikada as a kid. ALL the kids in Hawaii did. Well, that and Checkers and Pogo.....)

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TollandRCR wrote:
A leper's hospital and colony was established in 1866 on an island, Kalaupapa. Now that the contagiousness of the disease can be powerfully controlled, the island is trying to establish a tourist business. People are living with Hansen's Disease today.


Hi, Mr. Anal Geography Weenie here! Just wanted (OCD compels me) to point out that Kalaupapa is the town, on the peninsula of the same name, where the colony was located; Molokai is the island.

I will now go back to washing my hands and counting things. Thank you.

Thanks. Which proves a point I've made to myself several times over: be careful when using Wikipedia. Although the sea cliffs do provide a terrific barrier to the peninsula, the facility was in fact on a island that also had what was called "topside Molokai."
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...At its peak, about 1,200 men, women, and children were in exile in this island prison. ....


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