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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:57 pm 
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intermeddling

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:23 pm 
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New Docket Entries:

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What an astounding clown dance. If Hemenway's continued stupidity were not enough, Phil Berg's officious intermeddling is enough to make a mockery of the entire situation. I wonder why they even accepted that nonsense as an amicus brief, since it has none of the purpose of an amicus brief, is not intended to benefit the court, cites only AmJur2d, which the court is entirely capable of pulling off its own library shelves if it feels compelled to do so, and attempts to interfere with another lawyer's representation of his client, insulting him by calling him senile at the same time. The continued assertion that there is any merit whatsoever to the interpleader action is also patently frivolous. I suppose Berg's misconduct is the worse of the two, since unlike Hemenway, he isn't even representing a client, merely insulting another attorney and the court.

I also like how Berg is still trying to take credit for some of the most moronic legal arguments made in a birfer case outside of Orly's, as if they are something to claim with pride. It's rare to see, even in birferland, a document this utterly useless, which has no point whatsoever and could not possibly achieve anything useful for anyone.

I agree with Muldy's assessment. The briefs are preposterous. The declarations filed with Joyce's last brief are totally inappropriate in an appeal that is supposed to be of the case below.

But I think Joyce's briefs make a compelling argument that the sanctions against Hemenway should be reversed. Instead, since Joyce and Berg claim authorship of the misguided (and ridiculous) interpleader theory, the Court of Appeals should impose a significant monetary sanction against them for keeping this klown dance alive.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:28 pm 
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But I think Joyce's briefs make a compelling argument that the sanctions against Hemenway should be reversed.


But the district court knew Berg and Joyce were directing the bus all along. The DC went after Hemingway for agreeing to be their driver.

They all deserve sanctions.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:14 pm 
deja vu all over again ................

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01/07/2010 Open Document CORRECTED APPELLANT REPLY BRIEF [1224425] filed by Mr. Gregory S. Hollister in 09-5080, Mr. John David Hemenway in 09-5161 [Service Date: 01/07/2010 ] Length of Brief: 6870. [09-5080, 09-5161]


As the "incorrect" entry was 6975 words, it looks like he deleted 100 words somewhere ....


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:28 am 
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01/07/2010 Open Document JOINT MOTION filed [1224526] by Mr. Gregory S. Hollister in 09-5080, Mr. John David Hemenway in 09-5161 for judicial notice. (Response to Motion served by mail due on 01/22/2010) [Service Date: 01/07/2010 by email] Pages: 16-20. [09-5080, 09-5161]


IANAL, but this document, "[highlight]MOTION TO TAKE JUDICIAL NOTICEOF HAWAIIAN TERRITORIAL STATUTES,THE REVISED LAWS OF HAWAII, CHAPTER 57,“VITAL STATISTICS, AND THEIR EFFECT[/highlight]," seems to me to be more BS that has absolutely nothing to do with the points on appeal. :-k

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:41 am 
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IANAL, but this document ...seems to me to be more BS that has absolutely nothing to do with the points on appeal. :-k

You are correct. The document, and the laws referenced in the document, have nothing to do with the interpleader statute and whether Hollister can make a valid claim under that statute; nor do they have anything to do with Rule 11 and whether Hemenway violated it. Thus, they are irrelevant to the appeal (except as they may relate to Rule 38 sanctions, of course).


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:38 pm 
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From the RJN, "Thus a Hawaii official might assert that a person had a 'birth certificate' that was on file with the state or had been on file with the state but that assertion doesn’t provethat a child was born in Hawaii."

1. No, but the index data does prove that assertion.

2. The possibility of birth elsewhere is not evidence of birth elsewhere. And if there were such evidence, it should have been provided to the district court, but wasn't.

So: A whole lotta nothing. Don't know if it'll draw a sanction, though.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:53 pm 
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01/11/2010 Open Document RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION FILED [1224880] by Joseph R. Biden, Jr. and Barry Soetoro in 09-5080, 09-5161 to motion for judicial notice [1224526-2] [Service Date: 01/11/2010 by email] Pages: 1-10. [09-5080, 09-5161]


... you know the drill ...
Edit: Link is currently acting funky - hopefully should be resolved shortly. In the meantime, the brief is very short and sweet:


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On January 7, 2009, Appellants Hollister and Hemenway filed a second Motion to Take Judicial Notice ("Motion"), asking the Court yet again to take notice of materials irrelevant to the present appeal. The Court should deny this motion.

As Appellees argued the last time that Appellants requested judicial notice, see Doc. No. 1213344 at 1; see also Doc. No. 1220734 at 2, the issues on appeal in this case are (1) whether Appellant Hollister stated a claim under the interpleader statute by alleging a cognizable stake and by meeting interpleader's adversity requirement; and, relatedly, (2) whether the district court abused its discretion in reprimanding Appellant Hemenway for filing a frivolous suit. The district court did not reach the "merits" of Hollister's claim, see Corrected Appellants' Joint Appendix at 256, and the "merits" are not properly before this Court. The documents attached to Appellants' Motion have absolutely no bearing on the issues before this Court and therefore judicial notice should not be taken. See Larson v. Dep't of State, 565 F.3d 857, 870 (D.C. Cir. 2009) ("We deny the plaintiffs' request for judicial notice . . . because those articles are irrelevant to our inquiry; taking notice of them would not affect our opinion."); see also, e.g., Trans-Sterling, Inc. v. Bible, 804 F.2d 525, 528 (9th Cir. 1986) (noting that a court need not take judicial notice of irrelevant facts); United States v. Byrnes, 644 F.2d 107, 112 (2d Cir. 1981) (holding that a trial court properly refused to take judicial notice of regulations that were irrelevant).


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:14 pm 
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01/21/2010 JOINT REPLY FILED [1226668] [In Support of Motion for Judicial Notice of HI Territorial Statutes] by Mr. Gregory S. Hollister in 09-5080, Mr. John David Hemenway in 09-5161 to response [1224880-2] [Service Date: 01/21/2010 by email] Pages: 1-10. [09-5080, 09-5161]


In contrast to the Opposition, noted above, the Reply is 11 pages long :)
Link to follow.

Edit: Clarified that this is the Reply to Motion for Judicial Notice.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:00 pm 
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01/21/2010 JOINT REPLY FILED [1226668] by Mr. Gregory S. Hollister in 09-5080, Mr. John David Hemenway in 09-5161 to response [1224880-2] [Service Date: 01/21/2010 by email] Pages: 1-10. [09-5080, 09-5161]


In contrast to the Opposition, noted above, the Reply is 11 pages long :)
Link to follow.

It also appears to never even mention the word "interpleader."

Do they actually have any clue as to what they are appealing?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:11 pm 
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03/08/2010 Open Document CLERK'S ORDER filed [1233796] granting motion to withdraw document [1208531-2] in 09-5080 (withdrawing motion for judicial notice [1207877-2]) [09-5080, 09-5161]

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03/08/2010 Open Document PER CURIAM ORDER filed [1233799] discharging order to show cause filed 10/20/09; dismissing as moot motion to substitute reply brief; denying motions for judicial notice; denying motion for leave to file an amicus brief and denying motion for oral argument. Judge Henderson, Tatel and Garland [09-5080, 09-5161]


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:35 pm 
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03/08/2010 Open Document PER CURIAM ORDER filed [1233799] discharging order to show cause filed 10/20/09; dismissing as moot motion to substitute reply brief; denying motions for judicial notice; denying motion for leave to file an amicus brief and denying motion for oral argument. Judge Henderson, Tatel and Garland [09-5080, 09-5161]


Not a good sign, kemo sabe.

Birthers are not having a good day. :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:42 pm 
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denying motions for judicial notice

You called it!

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denying motion for leave to file an amicus brief

Berg can't participate in the case he started. So sad. :((

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denying motion for oral argument

The only question left is "how bad is it going to hurt from the court' ass kicking?"

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03/22/2010 Open Document PER CURIAM JUDGMENT filed [1235943] (without memorandum) that the district court's orders filed March 5, 2009 and March 24, 2009, be affirmed (SEE JUDGMENT FOR DETAILS), withholding issuance of the mandate. Judge Henderson, Tatel and Garland [09-5080, 09-5161]


Link Shortly

Another on bites the dust. :-bd

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:42 am 
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03/22/2010 Open Document PER CURIAM JUDGMENT filed [1235943] (without memorandum) that the district court's orders filed March 5, 2009 and March 24, 2009, be affirmed (SEE JUDGMENT FOR DETAILS), withholding issuance of the mandate. Judge Henderson, Tatel and Garland [09-5080, 09-5161]


Link Shortly

Another on bites the dust. :-bd


I'm :shock: SHOCKED :shock:


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03/22/2010 Open Document PER CURIAM JUDGMENT filed [1235943] (without memorandum) that the district court's orders filed March 5, 2009 and March 24, 2009, be affirmed (SEE JUDGMENT FOR DETAILS), withholding issuance of the mandate. Judge Henderson, Tatel and Garland [09-5080, 09-5161]

They have seven days in which to file an appeal to the Court of Appeals en banc. Strunk may strike again. We may not have seen the end of this "case," and we may not have seen the end of sanctions. They've lost quite thoroughly but will likely not admit it. Indeed, they may be inspired to struggle on by last night's victory for democracy.

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03/22/2010 Open Document PER CURIAM JUDGMENT filed [1235943] (without memorandum) that the district court's orders filed March 5, 2009 and March 24, 2009, be affirmed (SEE JUDGMENT FOR DETAILS), withholding issuance of the mandate. Judge Henderson, Tatel and Garland [09-5080, 09-5161]

They have seven days in which to file an appeal to the Court of Appeals en banc. Strunk may strike again. We may not have seen the end of this "case," and we may not have seen the end of sanctions. They've lost quite thoroughly but will likely not admit it. Indeed, they may be inspired to struggle on by last night's victory for democracy.


A re-hearing will be denied, a request of re-hearing en banc will be denied.

Strunk never attempted to insert himself in this case and if he does now it will be ignored.

This one is toast...stick a fork in it and all that.

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I haz a happy day!!!


I can barely contain the excitement I feel for the upcoming Kerchner smackdown.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:30 pm 
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03/22/2010 Open Document PER CURIAM JUDGMENT filed [1235943] (without memorandum) that the district court's orders filed March 5, 2009 and March 24, 2009, be affirmed (SEE JUDGMENT FOR DETAILS), withholding issuance of the mandate. Judge Henderson, Tatel and Garland [09-5080, 09-5161]


The Judges:
Henderson Nominated as District Judge by Ronald Reagan; nominated to Appeals Court by G.W. Bush.

Tatel: Nominated by Clinton.

Garland: Nominated by Clinton.


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I haz a happy day!!!

Me too. Now if this week would also yield the disbarment of Orly Taitz, another smackdown for Crystal Chalice, denial of Orly's various pleadings in various courts, and discovery that Orly is not eligible to run for CA SoS because she is not a citizen, plus a letter from the UN to Dr. Levy saying "WTF?," this would be a week that would live in history.

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Butterfly Bilderberg wrote:
I haz a happy day!!!

Me too. Now if this week would also yield the disbarment of Orly Taitz, another smackdown for Crystal Chalice, denial of Orly's various pleadings in various courts, and discovery that Orly is not eligible to run for CA SoS because she is not a citizen, plus a letter from the UN to Dr. Levy saying "WTF?," this would be a week that would live in history.


Uh, it already is. I would like to see those things happen as well, but this is a most historic week already.

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Not to be ridiculously nitpicky, but why does "DC Court of Appeals" appear in the title to this thread?

A lot of out-of-towners haz confuzzlement about this, but the DC Court of Appeals is the District of Columbia's supreme court -- its equivalent of a state court of last resort.

The Hollister court is the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, an altogether different court.

Ditto with this other thread: Berg v. Obama|FCA - Act II - Appeal to D.C. Ct. App.

No biggie, jes sayin'...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:40 pm 
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Not to be ridiculously nitpicky, but why does "DC Court of Appeals" appear in the title to this thread?

A lot of out-of-towners haz confuzzlement about this, but the DC Court of Appeals is the District of Columbia's supreme court -- its equivalent of a state court of last resort.

The Hollister court is the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, an altogether different court.

Ditto with this other thread: Berg v. Obama|FCA - Act II - Appeal to D.C. Ct. App.

No biggie, jes sayin'...

Cause as much as I insist on any formal memo or brief being Blue Booked by my favorite most-anal-in-the-world-legal-editor, I cannot convince her to join this thread to correct my errors here :). (She *did* correct the Birther StringCite ... or the parts i let her ... and needed oxygen to calm down when I didn't let her make it perfectly consistent with BlueBook ('cause that would require me to get rid of slip copies/info for laypeople without access to Westlaw).

However, thank you - and they should be now fixed


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So first we have the anal language weenie, and now we have the anal thread title weenie!! :roll:

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